up in very political cities with high profile governors. i was working -- [inaudible] but you do have some extent put that out of your mind now because it used to be if you had a tough, maybe even uncomfortable moment with somebody, that was it. it played, it was done. now it's out there forever. i think it's more important than ever we have a lot of news sources that aren't really news, that those folks who believe our journalists and/or trained journalists and believe that what we did is still important, getting of information, you know, about very consequential positions people are going to make about what they do and they go into a voting booth, that we do pushback. and i also would say that i'd be curious to hear what the others think. i'm on television all the time, but the standards are different. they are different for men and women and how you can pushback, and how tough you can be in pushing back. and you also find it and it depends on who the subject is, but some people don't like to get pushed back by own. >> can you give an exa